amongst this negativity, lets see the positive side of last 15-20 years ( i’m not maobadi ko jholey)

amongst this negativity, lets see the positive side of last 15-20 years ( i'm not maobadi ko jholey)

1. damn loadshedding, remember how bad the conditions were? 18 hours of no electricity in that bloody summer (even worse for terai people ). we overcame that, now we’re exporting electricity to india rs 12 billion worth in first 4-5 months of this FY.
2. independence and exports in other sectors , specially cement, building rods, steel.
3. tourist influx almost tripled (excluding the covid crisis)
4. roadways , most improved infrastructure sector imo. gau gau maa bato pugya xa, almost all district headquarters are connected by other main highways. tho poor in some hilly and himalayan regions, nahunu vanda kano mama bes. improve hudai jala.
5. maternal mortality rate 380 deaths per 100k in 2005, 2021 it was 151per 100k (still high but damn 380 during 21st century). Infant mortality rate 2006 : 44 per 1000 , 25 per 1000 (2021)
6. Literacy rate 2001 54%, 2021 76%.
7. GDP 2006 9 billion, 2023 36 billion. GDP per capita 2006 $341, 2021 $1200
8. roads : 2006 around 20000 km , 2023 64000 km
9. Multidimensional Poverty Index 2006 59%, 2019 17%
10. per capita income 2006 1730 PPP dollars , 2021 4230 PPP dollars

data from various sources like ADB, UNDP, WHO and World Bank.

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dont bash me in comments saying maobadi ko jholey; we all know the negatives, so trying to be optimistic for a while. I know much more could’ve been done in last 15 years but it hasn’t been done.add more if you want.


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30 thoughts on “amongst this negativity, lets see the positive side of last 15-20 years ( i’m not maobadi ko jholey)

  1. We need some positive reflection on our progress and even the government should be doing this kind of broadcast so that they can assure people good things are coming or else they will most likely be hopeless and won’t think about contributing to the economy. I believe from now on we youths need to focus more on generating the income for nation and find more avenues for cash inflow other than remittance and I believe with our great minds at our disposal there is no mountain high enough to overcome. The more we focus on working for the nation the less we become jholey and indulge ourselves on nonsensical work.

  2. Yes there have been improvements.
    Another positive thing is the drop of fertility rate not only in Nepal but also our neighbors India and China.

  3. The police harassed my friends, and threatened to lock us up for carrying beer, not even drinking it, carrying it to our hotel. They even arrested a few people for the same thing. The police arrested people for voicing against that murderer Regal, the government is trying to restrict free speech [as if we had free speech in the first place]. There’s no prosperity until we have a free country,

  4. The real question is if we would be able to achieve this without civil war and Federalism. I think we would absolutely have achieved that. it’s a regional trend.

  5. Nobody will tell you this.

    The reason for economic boom post 2007-08 is because of 1) trickling of cheap money printed in the west (post GFC). 2) remittance money as we have almost 1/4 of population outside. Nothing to do with monarchy or republic.

    Similarly, the current economic difficulties is also because cheap money is no longer available to trickle down to nepal. It will remain so for next 1-2 years at least. It will also have impact on remittances. Again nothing to do with monarchy or republic.

    However, federalism is burden on nepali people. It will be interesting to see how nepali political landscape navigates in next few years.

  6. When you get dragged down by war mongering people its obvious that growth seems staggering. The growth would be here regardless. Deaths of 17 thousand deaths and violence were for selfish reasons. This growth is led by Nepalis exporting themselves all over the world. Nothing to do with “progressive Federal Demoratic Republic of Nepal” or its policies.

  7. > damn loadshedding, remember how bad the conditions were? 18 hours of no electricity in that bloody summer (even worse for terai people ).

    loadshedding also reached its peak in 2014-2017. even during the final years of monarchy before the the movement in 2005-6, there used to be only 2-3 hours of loadshedding on alternate days which obviously is not something to be proud of but the 18 hours of power cut youre talking about only happened after monarchy ended. the country also was in war, so you obviously coulndt build hydropower projects at that time and the Maoists were infamous for bombings and extortions.

    >independence and exports in other sectors , specially cement, building rods, steel.

    Nepal’s import also grew by 24% from 2020 to 2021, 22% in 2020 and so on. Nepal has been going through an alarming rate of trade deficit since the last decade. the gap started widening in 2008/2009. [https://npc.gov.np/images/category/Nepals_Trade_Deficit1.pdf](https://npc.gov.np/images/category/Nepals_Trade_Deficit1.pdf)

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    >tourist influx almost tripled (excluding the covid crisis)

    where is this data from and which year is it comparing to? because the rates have grown everywhere around the world, not just in Nepal and not to mention the country was dealing with an active insurgency.

    [https://ourworldindata.org/tourism#:~:text=Tourism%20has%20massively%20increased%20in,in%20the%20countries%20they%20visit](https://ourworldindata.org/tourism#:~:text=Tourism%20has%20massively%20increased%20in,in%20the%20countries%20they%20visit).

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    > roadways , most improved infrastructure sector imo. gau gau maa bato pugya xa, almost all district headquarters are connected by other main highways.

    in many places yes i have noticed that too, especially outside the capital. but there are are also roads that are way past their deadlines with no progress whatsoever and roads that dont last even two years. Take Pokhara highway for example and the Butwal highway, it has been years Butwal road expansion was started and yet there is very little sign of progress. It took years to repair a piece of road in the Muglinn Narayanghat highway. people had to wait for certain hours everyday for years during the construction and a number of people even died during that time due to the mismanagement. the quality of the roads were so bad they had to redo the construction multiple times and there was also news of corruption.

    > maternal mortality rate 380 deaths per 100k in 2005, 2021 it was…

    because new roads were built, people started sending more remittance, medicines became cheaper, more doctors in the country, newer technologies, more health posts, more awareness and so on.

    Also why are you comparing to 2005’s data. there is always going to be improvement in such things until it reaches a certain point. if you want to be fair, compare the data from 2000 with 2008 and 2008 with 2020.

    MMR in 2002 per 100k: 504. 2008: 344.. 2020: 174. do the math.

    [https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/NPL/nepal/maternal-mortality-rate#:~:text=Nepal%20maternal%20mortality%20rate%20for,a%200.45%25%20decline%20from%202016](https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/NPL/nepal/maternal-mortality-rate#:~:text=Nepal%20maternal%20mortality%20rate%20for,a%200.45%25%20decline%20from%202016).

    >Literacy rate 2001 54%, 2021 76%.

    Literacy rate 1980: 20%, 2001: 48%

    >roads : 2006 around 20000 km , 2023 64000 km

    There was a 10 year long war happening.

    >Multidimensional Poverty Index 2006 59%, 2019 17%

    i couldnt find relevant data regarding this and Per capita income but even then, there is no denying that the quality of life has indeed increased in Nepal, more so in the last decade. but i still dont think that has much to do with the system but with more people sending in remittance from the middle east. it all boils down to more people working in the middle east to keep the country afloat. is that something to be proud of? if there is any development, its because of regular people, not solely because of the government. the debt to gdp ratio is at all time high, the government cant properly pay its employees let alone allocate budget for capital expenditure, so in my opinion the negative outweighs the positive.

  8. Nepal has Human Rights Status of ‘A’ class now,
    The army doesn’t commit more atrocities as per their wish,
    Journalist freedom has improved alot,
    Improvement in HDI.

    Before covid struck, Nepal’s economy was one of the fastest growing economies in the world (2nd or 3rd highest growth rate for a while, if i remember correctly)

  9. The country will not stay the same way it was 20 years ago naturally. ANY LEADER COULD HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THESE.

    Many things you’ve stated were done with reinforcement of individual efforts – Loadshedding to Kulman Ghising.

    Dont deny the fact that this Govt is PATHETIC & INCOMPETENT. They have 0 education, 0 vision and 0 ideas going forward.

    India and Nepal were comparable in 90’s in terms of Infrastructure, Technology, etc. Today, India is of the most powerful nations in the world whilst we’re one of the worst.

    Stop spreading this fake positivity 😄

  10. Now pause on 20 years ago and go even 20 years back and see for yourself. Was there no development going on? Changes takes time. Development has nothing to do with Maobadi or coming of this system but it was needed and being fullfilled slowly. Its same everywhere in the world. We learn from someone else and try to adapt it. Even if this change in system did not happen, we would still see many developments. History is the proof. In recent 20 years, we have been exposed to massive technologies and with it, development has been easier. So I would think this is something like Murphy’s Law.

  11. there have been some positives, you did your research and listed 10.. i bet there are peoples who could list out 30 negatives by heart. imo, the MAIN wrong thing thats happening is the “fashion” of studying aboard.

    all those abroad living mfs are telling us they have great life and we should go there, BS. we make less money in nepal BECAUSE we dont need much to survive here and people don’t understand that. its a fact (trust me bro), that parents are going to school and telling headteacher that they want their children to get good ielts marks. and parents have always said this: “ramro sanga padh, natra halo jotnu parla” what kinda BS is that?? k vo ta? jotxu halo, krisi nai garna man xa, tractor paye vane tractor jotxu, dherai khet vayo vane jhan dherai manxe hire garera sab lai jotauxu

    and kids(18+), if you cant judge whats right and whats wrong for yourself– and need society or parents to tell you right/wrong.. your education is a WASTE

  12. Lot of these things like Mortality rate, literacy rate and even tourist influx are bound to be better as world is being more connected.

    Data on road looks nice but as a person who goes to gau here and there, roads made are some of the most useless thing. Roads are only used to keep bike in houses. Khali thau dekhyo ki road banaune chalan cha rather than making one good stable road during heavy rains.

  13. jholeys will say they did it . But it is a regional trend as well . But Nepal had always set priority to Health and Education since 40-50 years even when it was dirt poor . Maobadi has set us back 10-15 years due to civil war and further more during the constitution drafting process .

  14. Good post. We should not dwell in negativity and stop progress from our side. News can make you think everything is disastrous. I like this post. Well done.

  15. BUT.
    Actual positive growth should be something thats higher than the baseline increment. Eg. You cant say we increased gdp because every country does and its smthng that should have happened. To be taken as a positive it should be higher than the global average or past trends.

    For 3. Tourists increasing in number i dont think was a result of our initiative but just that they happened to travel more here.

    They are positives regardless but i was assuming since you mentioned you weren’t maobadi jhole that you were trying to emphasize what the gov did specifically.

  16. Jati positive side herey ni 17000 jana afnai dai bhai marera lyako kura birseko ? Malai matlab xaina jasto sukai pragati kina nagaros maoist andolan paxi nepal ley ( garna chai kei garya haina timiley mention gareko kura sabai party ra sabai janta ko collective effort ley aako ho ) . Change ko nam ma manxey marnu lai jasari justify garey ni it won’t be justified. I wish i was an army officer at that time .I would have killed them without any regrets. BLOODY TERRORISTS .

  17. Good things are yet to happen in this country and our younger generation is more promising than our older generation. I think the leap that we are expecting will come from the post-civil war generation. The generation that grew in relative peace and prosperity. Till then, we should be patient and let nature do its work.

  18. Its not about we janta being congress or maobadi ko jholey.. In every country people support one or another political party. Main problem is every politican in Nepal are either India or A**rica ko jholey.. India ko jholey vaijel ta thikai thyo.. yo arko country ko jholey hune neta vayesi desh ma kasto hunchha recent world examples sapai ko agadi nai chha

  19. Sahi kura ho. Mero ni dimag ma desh ko baare ma -ve matra aauxa aajkaal. Euta kura chahi, Nepal ma development vaneko sideeffect of paisa kamaune baato for people in power. Aba development nai mail goal banayera garyo vane kati ramro hunthyo hola.

    Aba kati samay ko maag anusar ko pariwartan hola, maybe except loadshedding. Tyo chahi mannai parxa.

  20. The first half of 1900s was about colonization as well. Even Britishers didn’t leave India till 1947. And idk why most people questioning the development during monarchical Nepal tend to forget that we’re a landlocked country. Had we got just a 100m stretch along ocean, we would have been way ahead than now in terms of development, even with monarchy. The diplomacy no matter how old is with India, during the Britishers, trade wasn’t going to be easy. In fact our trade was (and still is) controlled by our southern neighbours. We do sell electricity during peak seasons but also buy during winter for comparably higher cost. Our PCI might have increased 5 times but so have the cost to quality of life. Education has become quite expensive. Quality health facility is expensive. We used to grow our own food 30/40 yrs back then, now we important rice. Our crop culture has changed. While they couldn’t grow rice, people in hills used to grow maize and millet and that’s not the case now. Development isn’t just high PCI, no of schools, hospitals or roads. The shift from our cultural habits post monarch was so high we now have barren lands in terai and hills and lots of trucks on the border filled with rice, vegetables.

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